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 RC extraction mode for postRoute timing analysis 

Last post Mon, Jun 18 2007 1:01 PM by archive. 3 replies.
Started by archive 18 Jun 2007 01:01 PM. Topic has 3 replies and 1321 views
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    RC extraction mode for postRoute timing analysis Reply

    Hello,

    I am using SOC62 and the problem is that I want to consider coupling
    capacitances (not xtalk effects) during "timeDesign -postRoute", but the RC
    extraction automatically performed by timeDesign
    does not consider these capacitances.

    1) How to force timeDesign to consider what is set by setExtractRCMode?


    I tried the following commands:
    ######
    setExtractRCMode -detail -noReduce -coupled -noise
    extractRC
    timeDesign -postRoute -reportOnly
    timeDesign -postRoute -hold -reportOnly
    ######

    But I'm not sure if using this option
    (-reportOnly) timeDesign performs
    delay calculation before timing analysis or if it
    uses previous calculated timing data.

    2) How to consider coupling capacitances, not crosstalking effects, during
    timeDesign -postRoute (considering native extraction)?

    Regards,
    Cristiano.


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  • Tue, Jun 19 2007 4:32 PM

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    RE: RC extraction mode for postRoute timing analysis Reply

    just make sure you have "setRCFactor -xcap ###".  You can play around with the number to see the effect on your timing.  You could use the spef from extractRC within SOC and the spef from you signoff tool and input both spefs into "ostrich" to get ###.

    li siang


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  • Wed, Jun 20 2007 6:24 AM

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    RE: RC extraction mode for postRoute timing analysis Reply

    Thanks lisiang,

    The fact is that command "timeDesign -postRoute" automatically set "setExtractRCMode -declouped" before running RC extraction and delay calculation.
    I did some tests and I think the only way to avoid it is running "timeDesign -postRoute -reportOnly" after extract coupling caps.

    Cristiano.


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  • Wed, Jun 20 2007 11:20 PM

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    RE: RC extraction mode for postRoute timing analysis Reply

    i am suprised that the -xcap will not have effect on time using just "timeDesign". Even with the -decoupled, the extraction should still calculate the xcap and then add it to the total gnd cap. Did you try different xcap value and check to see if it produce the same/different timing?

    li siang


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