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 Should I bother about the PLL delay? 

Last post Wed, Sep 5 2012 6:23 AM by grasshopper. 2 replies.
Started by gops 29 Jul 2012 08:21 AM. Topic has 2 replies and 2057 views
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  • Sun, Jul 29 2012 8:21 AM

    • gops
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    Should I bother about the PLL delay? Reply

    In my design I have 2 instances of PLL.  The PLL A and PLL B are identical with two output pins (synchronous outputs). I have cascaded one of the output port of PLL A to PLL B.  My module top/s_inst uses  two clocks one from the output of PLL A directly and another from the output of  PLL B ( whose input is the cascaded to PLL A). In this case, how should I constrain my clock?

     Is it OK if I define the first clock to s_inst from the output pin of PLL A and the second  clock to s_inst from the output pin of PLL B. 

    1) Will the edges of PLL A clock and PLL B clock to s_inst be synchronozed automatically?

    2) Should I consider the delay incurred  by PLL B as an insertion delay or just don't care about it?

     

    please do help on this. 

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  • Sat, Sep 1 2012 8:14 AM

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    Re: Should I bother about the PLL delay? Reply

    1. Yeah if you donot define false between any of clocks you have defined

     

    2.You need to consider the delay through PLL B. You can model as insertion delay.

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  • Wed, Sep 5 2012 6:23 AM

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    Re: Should I bother about the PLL delay? Reply

     Hi,

     the short answer is it depends on how your PLL liberty models model the PLL but in all likelyhood you will have to define not only clocks but somehow model not only insertion delay as ubbala mentioned but also things like phase offset and jittter. As mentioned, it really depends on what you are trying to accomplish, whether you are using a pre or post P&R netlist, etc. A web search for "PLL model SDC" will likely return a few good articles regarding PLL modelling techniques.

    hope this helps,

    gh-

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