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 What's the definition of "Ref node" in QRC extraction? 

Last post Thu, Jul 12 2012 8:10 PM by greatqs. 2 replies.
Started by greatqs 11 Jul 2012 11:16 PM. Topic has 2 replies and 1755 views
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    • greatqs
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    What's the definition of "Ref node" in QRC extraction? Reply

    I know from the user guide it says "Ref node" specify the reference node (net) that QRC will use for decoupling capacitors during a run.

    But what's the physical meaning for this "decoupling capacitors"? I think every parasitic capacitor should be explicitly specified by schematic/layout net names without specify this magic "Ref node". 

     

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  • Thu, Jul 12 2012 1:12 AM

    Re: What's the definition of "Ref node" in QRC extraction? Reply

    If you choose "decoupled" as how capacitors are extracted, instead of getting capacitors from one node to another, all the capacitors on each node will be lumped and connected to "ground". This reduces the number of capacitors in the circuit, but of course does not capture the effects of coupling one node another. In addition, even if you pick "coupled", if the capacitances are small (below the minC value), then they get decoupled to "ground" to ensure that any resulting simulation matrix remains sparse and not full of tiny capacitances.

    The "Ref node" defines the ground node that should be used for any capacitor to be decoupled to.

    Regards,

    Andrew.

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  • Thu, Jul 12 2012 8:10 PM

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    Re: What's the definition of "Ref node" in QRC extraction? Reply

     Andrew,

     

    Thanks for your detaled explanation.

     

    Thanks,

    QS

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