Home > Community > Forums > PCB Design > New 16.5 user

Email

* Required Fields

Recipients email * (separate multiple addresses with commas)

Your name *

Your email *

Message *

Contact Us

* Required Fields
First Name *

Last Name *

Email *

Company / Institution *

Comments: *

 New 16.5 user 

Last post Tue, Sep 17 2013 9:48 AM by Leeya. 18 replies.
Started by TH Designs 04 May 2012 06:15 AM. Topic has 18 replies and 6277 views
Page 1 of 2 (19 items) 1 2 Next >
Sort Posts:
  • Fri, May 4 2012 6:15 AM

    • TH Designs
    • Top 25 Contributor
    • Joined on Fri, Apr 13 2012
    • Warminster, PA
    • Posts 269
    • Points 4,370
    New 16.5 user Reply

    Hi all,

     I am new to PCB Editor 16.5 coming from Orcad Layout 15.7. I have been using Orcad products to do pcb layouts since it first came out back in the 80's. I would consider myself an expert user in Orcad Layout. I have found the transition to 16.5 to be nothing short of painful and I am looking for some guidance to help ease the pain..........

    Any tips / lessons learned from folks that have successfully made this jump would be appreciated.

    Tom

    • Post Points: 35
  • Tue, May 8 2012 6:27 AM

    • steve
    • Top 10 Contributor
    • Joined on Fri, Jul 18 2008
    • Woking, Surrey
    • Posts 1,163
    • Points 18,900
    Re: New 16.5 user Reply

    There is a great book avaliable written by Kraig Mitzner - Complete PCB Design using Orcad Capture and PCB Editor. Although it written for version 16.0 the basics are the same. I would also recommend talking to either Cadence or the VAR that sold you the software. Most VAR's have excellent resources, PDF's, videos, tutorials, training that help users make the switch.

    If you have specific questions then you've found the correct forum to ask. Good luck.

    • Post Points: 20
  • Tue, May 8 2012 9:01 AM

    • TH Designs
    • Top 25 Contributor
    • Joined on Fri, Apr 13 2012
    • Warminster, PA
    • Posts 269
    • Points 4,370
    Re: New 16.5 user Reply

    Thanks for the response Steve.

    I do have Mitzners book and it does cover a lot of things, but............ For example, I started out making a simple 16 pin footprint for practice. Accidentally made it 17 pins. Could not figure out how to delete pin 17. Spent at least one hour on it, book was no help as well as online resources. Ended up opening a trouble ticket (boy did I feel stupid doing that) and found how to do it. Frustrating in that in 15.7 I could just hit the delete key or open up a the footprints spread sheet and delete it there. In 16.5 I have to set filters, pick edit then delete and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I have to figure out the correct sequence. So what used to be one or two clicks or key presses is now at least doubled. That is one of the things I'm finding is that there are a lot more clicks involved in doing things now.

     I'll be sure to try here first with specific questions.

    Tom

     PS: I also miss the backspace command to turn the layers off, plus "i", "o", "c" for zooming and a simple "v" for via............

    • Post Points: 20
  • Tue, May 8 2012 9:15 AM

    • steve
    • Top 10 Contributor
    • Joined on Fri, Jul 18 2008
    • Woking, Surrey
    • Posts 1,163
    • Points 18,900
    RE: New 16.5 user Reply
    Hi Tom

    You can assign Short-cut keys so that i o c v etc will work for you. It’s pretty easy to define. You basically need to edit your env file (located $HOME\pcbenv) and edit to add the command, key etc.

    Take a look at http://support.parallel-systems.co.uk/index.php/cadence/orcad/pcb-editor/item/116-ps-000031-tn-1

    The delete issue is more of a safeguard to stop you deleting something accidently. You have to invoke Edit – Delete then select what you want. The link does allow you to assign the delete command to a letter or key. The layers on and off can be setup with color view files.  

    http://support.parallel-systems.co.uk/index.php/cadence/orcad/pcb-editor/item/115-ps-000033-tn-2

    Steve
    • Post Points: 50
  • Mon, May 14 2012 9:22 AM

    • TH Designs
    • Top 25 Contributor
    • Joined on Fri, Apr 13 2012
    • Warminster, PA
    • Posts 269
    • Points 4,370
    Re: RE: New 16.5 user Reply

    Steve,

    Is it true that I can download 15.7 and use that to maintain legacy designs while moving forward with new designs in 16.5?

    Tom

    • Post Points: 5
  • Mon, May 14 2012 10:32 AM

    • TH Designs
    • Top 25 Contributor
    • Joined on Fri, Apr 13 2012
    • Warminster, PA
    • Posts 269
    • Points 4,370
    Re: RE: New 16.5 user Reply

    Found out you can only run 16.2 and 16.5. But 16.2 will allow me to edit / maintain .max files which is what I was looking for.

    Tom

    • Post Points: 5
  • Tue, May 29 2012 1:10 PM

    • TH Designs
    • Top 25 Contributor
    • Joined on Fri, Apr 13 2012
    • Warminster, PA
    • Posts 269
    • Points 4,370
    Re: RE: New 16.5 user Reply

    Trying to set up user defined function keys. App note referenced above says to edit the env file located in the %home% directory. I have no such file in the pcbenv directory. I have "allegro.geo"; "allegro.ini: and "allegro.mru". That's it, no "env" file.

    Am I looking in the wrong place? Did a general search for a file called env and nothing turned up.

     Tom

    • Post Points: 20
  • Wed, May 30 2012 1:20 AM

    • steve
    • Top 10 Contributor
    • Joined on Fri, Jul 18 2008
    • Woking, Surrey
    • Posts 1,163
    • Points 18,900
    Re: RE: New 16.5 user Reply

    The env file is written when you make a change to the User Preferences. If you haven't done this go to Setup - User Preferences then just click apply. This writes the env file to the %HOME\pcbenv folder. You can then edit in a text editor.

    • Post Points: 20
  • Thu, May 31 2012 8:24 AM

    • TH Designs
    • Top 25 Contributor
    • Joined on Fri, Apr 13 2012
    • Warminster, PA
    • Posts 269
    • Points 4,370
    Re: RE: New 16.5 user Reply

    Thanks Steve. Worked like a charm. I can now zoom in and out using i and o.

    Do you know if there is a list of commands or the syntax for the command that I can use when assigning keys?

     Tom

    • Post Points: 20
  • Thu, May 31 2012 8:37 AM

    • steve
    • Top 10 Contributor
    • Joined on Fri, Jul 18 2008
    • Woking, Surrey
    • Posts 1,163
    • Points 18,900
    Re: RE: New 16.5 user Reply

    You can either use Tools - Utilities - Keyboard commands - which lists ALL commands but I think a better way is to type scriptmode +e at the command line, this then sets PCB Editor so anytime you do anything (like Edit - Move) you would see the actual command name at the command line. This example would display CMD> move. This is the bit you need for the alias. Scriptmode is only active for this session. If you close PCB Editor down you would have to type it again to see the commands.

    • Post Points: 20
  • Thu, Mar 7 2013 5:34 AM

    • JT15
    • Not Ranked
    • Joined on Thu, Mar 7 2013
    • Posts 1
    • Points 20
    Re: RE: New 16.5 user Reply

    When routing in OrCad PCB Designer and I want to jump onto another layer I must either right click and select a layer from the "Change Alternate Layer" or select the new layer from the options menu. I was curious if anyone knew if I could create a function key in ENV FILE? (C:\SPB_Data\pcbenv))

     _______________________________________________________________________________________________________

    After reading your posts I was able to get this command from the command window. (pop dyn_option_select 'Change Alternate Layer@:@INNER2')

    Funckey l pop dyn_option_select 'Change Alternate Layer@:@INNER2' 

    When I apply it to the ENV File and reload PCB Editor. Nothing happens when I am routing a new trace.

    Am I doing something wrong?

    Also is there a command that would allow me to cycle through all my "Alternate layers"?  

    Thanks

    Jason 

     

     

    • Post Points: 20
  • Thu, Mar 7 2013 7:49 AM

    • steve
    • Top 10 Contributor
    • Joined on Fri, Jul 18 2008
    • Woking, Surrey
    • Posts 1,163
    • Points 18,900
    Re: RE: New 16.5 user Reply

    Your better off using the working layer option. Take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzEWtlLJARk

    • Post Points: 20
  • Thu, Mar 14 2013 2:14 PM

    • DonlAZ
    • Top 200 Contributor
    • Joined on Tue, Aug 28 2012
    • Chandler, AZ
    • Posts 36
    • Points 495
    Re: RE: New 16.5 user Reply
    Oh thanks for that video, that's going to help me root..
    • Post Points: 5
  • Fri, Sep 13 2013 6:22 PM

    • Leeya
    • Top 150 Contributor
    • Joined on Mon, Aug 26 2013
    • Posts 49
    • Points 860
    Re: RE: New 16.5 user Reply

    Hi Steve,

    I try to open two site  you post, but nothing could open at this time. It looks need extra login for this parallet system

    Can you send me the artical? liyang6688@hotmail.com

    Thanks 

    • Post Points: 20
  • Sat, Sep 14 2013 2:43 AM

    • zapperstone
    • Not Ranked
    • Joined on Sat, Sep 14 2013
    • Delhi, Delhi
    • Posts 2
    • Points 10
    Re: New 16.5 user Reply
    hi, as you are a new user you should take a look at http://www.tutorialfrenzy.com/cadence-orcad-mux.php It contains many articles which can be helpful....hope it helps
    • Post Points: 5
Page 1 of 2 (19 items) 1 2 Next >
Sort Posts:
Started by TH Designs at 04 May 2012 06:15 AM. Topic has 18 replies.