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 Allegro DFA 

Last post Fri, Feb 1 2013 1:59 PM by mcatramb91. 3 replies.
Started by Carl Musetti 08 Aug 2008 09:33 AM. Topic has 3 replies and 3793 views
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  • Fri, Aug 8 2008 9:33 AM

    Allegro DFA Reply

     Hello all,

    I would like to hear about users that are successfully using allegro DFA and have integrated their contract manufactures rule set into this process and how the integration was accomplished.


    All replies are appreciated



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  • Wed, Aug 20 2008 5:17 PM

    • mcatramb91
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    Re: Allegro DFA Reply

    Hey Carl,

    Sorry for the delayed response.  Just getting caught up with the new community. I will be at CDNLive! in September and we can get together and go thru how I integrated the DFA checks into our PCB Design flow.

    If you haven't registered for CDNLive! Silicon Valley its not too late to take advantage of the Early Bird Registration; Check out the web site: http://www.cadence.com/cdnlive/na/index.aspx

    OK Back to your question: 

    We have been using the Real-time DFA Checks for a while now with great success.  We had our own in-house manufacturing group that developed amatrix of component clearances which we imported in the Allegro DFA Spreadsheet.  We already had a Microsoft Spreadsheet of the component clearance matrix so I was able to output a tab delimited file and with some tweaks I was able to open it up inside of the DFA spreadsheet in Allegro.

    Here is a breakdown of some migration issues that I ran into which may be helpfull (Using SPB 15.7 during migration):

    DFA_DEV_CLASS can only be placed inside of the.dra symbol.  Adding at the Board level has no effect.

    Adding DFA_DEV_CLASS properties can be added to the symbol library using DFA_DLG but it also added the DFA Boundary.

    DFA_DLG would not run on large directories of symbols. Wildcards which contains over 100 symbols tends to crash with a Fatal Software Error.  Ran on SPB 15.7 on WinXP and did not see an issue. Appears to be limited to Solaris/Linux installation.

    DFA_DLG would generates only sqaure DFA Boundaries even if the Assembly Outline is round.

    DFA_DLG generated DFA Boundaries using all Assembly Outline data including pin 1 markers. Wrote SKILL routine to delete oversized DFA Boundary, then copy Place_Bound_Top to DFA_Bound_Top to correct issue. Place_Boundary was created correctly in library going out to the edge of the pins so it was OK to copy it to DFA_Bound_Top.

    DFA_DLG does not have an option to just add the DFA_DEV_CLASS property for library which have the correct Place_Bound_Top defined.

    DFA_DLG updates dra symbols and generates PSM in the same diretory so it needs to be manually moved into the symbol directory.
    Not a major issue but would be nice to have an option to specify location of output .psm file.

    DFA Spreadsheet can be created using Microsoft Excel but be careful of blank spaces in Class names and clearance values.

    Sorry for the brain dump but it may be usefull to you.

    Hope this helps,
    Michael Catrambone
    UTStarcom, Inc.


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  • Fri, Feb 1 2013 11:24 AM

    • TamiWright
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    Re: Allegro DFA Reply
    so how do you add dfa_dlg at the symbol level?
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  • Fri, Feb 1 2013 1:59 PM

    • mcatramb91
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    Re: Allegro DFA Reply

    DFA_DLG is the standalone program of the DFA Spreadsheet in Allegro.  At the symbol level you would add a property called DFA_DEV_CLASS to define the DFA Group or Classification for the symbol.  These classification are loaded in the DFA Spreadsheet then you can define clearances between the different classification of symbols.

    It is really a lot to explain so I would recommend checking out the "Best Practices: Working with Real-Time DFA Analysis" in the Cadence documentation to give you a good idea how it all works.  You can also access a PDF version of the Best Practices by browsing to it in Windows Explorer by entering %CDSROOT%\doc\algroDFA.

    Good luck,
    Mike Catrambone

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Started by Carl Musetti at 08 Aug 2008 09:33 AM. Topic has 3 replies.